Ivor Perl survived the Holocaust, then spent 50 years quietly looking after his family and business in the UK. Eventually, he started to open up – describing the luck, hope, belief and pity that have helped him to live

We have only just met – I have barely sat down – when Ivor Perl confesses a profound doubt. “How much has it helped in the 80 years, us talking?”

By “us”, he means fellow survivors of the Holocaust who have testified to the horrors they witnessed. He wants to know if all the talks at schools, all the media interviews, have achieved anything. “Can you tell me?”

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