‘We got hold of a drum machine but there was no manual. That’s why the song has a weird conga pattern – we didn’t know how to delete it’

The early singles by Wah! Heat were indie hits because John Peel championed them. I went to meet him at a Fall gig in Manchester. The Fall were fantastic, but it felt like the gig was full of all these people who were there just to be seen. Suddenly, indie wasn’t a scene I wanted to be in.

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